ARCHIVE - Algebra to Algorithms - Seminar 1: Can machines think? become conscious? have emotion? http://www2.evergreen.edu/a2a08/taxonomy/term/4/0 What do you think about these questions at this point in time? Write down your thoughts before doing any research. Justify your position. Next, find between 3 and 5 sources on the web to reenforce/refute your position. Have you changed your mind? There are tons of sources you can find by googling using things like consciousness, Artificial intellegence, computers, alive, etc... On this forum, post what position you have on each of these questions and post the sources you found (web address) and a summary of each. Be prepared to share your findings in class during the Seminar. en ARCHIVE - Isn't the brain just a machine? http://www2.evergreen.edu/a2a08/isnt-the-brain-just-a-machine <p>Isn&#39;t the brain just a machine itself? Where do we has human&#39;s draw the line between machine and living? This topic is obscurred with more questions than solutions. It seems theoretically possible that one day humans will be able to construct a robot that will function identically as human. That being said, if the brain can be reconstructed completely, what really is the difference? organic tissue? emotions and what we consider consciousness can be programmed into a computer. I dont see why we cannot create a virtual human one day, much like the bicentinal man with robin williams <img src="/a2a08/modules/tinymce/tinymce/jscripts/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/smiley-laughing.gif" border="0" alt="Laughing" title="Laughing" width="18" height="18" /> . That&#39;s my two cents on the subject.</p><p><a href="http://www2.evergreen.edu/a2a08/isnt-the-brain-just-a-machine">read more</a></p> http://www2.evergreen.edu/a2a08/isnt-the-brain-just-a-machine#comment Seminar 1: Can machines think? become conscious? have emotion? Wed, 09 Apr 2008 13:24:53 -0700 smieva15 65 at http://www2.evergreen.edu/a2a08 ARCHIVE - Human vs Machines http://www2.evergreen.edu/a2a08/human-vs-machines <p>&#160;</p><p>Can machines think? Yes, I think this question is very general, if you mean doing calculations and getting from point A to point B than the answer is yes. But thinking is more than calculations. If you make a mistake, people will ask you &quot;what were you thinking!&quot;. When it comes to chosing the right thing to do through common sense, thinking becomes more complex. I don&#39;t think a computers are at the same level of thinking as a human. </p><p>Can machines become conscious? No, to me being conscious is having a soul. computers can never have souls.</p><p>Can machines have emotions? Machines can have fake emotions, manipulated emotions. They can show emotions but it will not effect them as humans are effected.</p><p><a href="http://www2.evergreen.edu/a2a08/human-vs-machines">read more</a></p> http://www2.evergreen.edu/a2a08/human-vs-machines#comment Seminar 1: Can machines think? become conscious? have emotion? Tue, 08 Apr 2008 12:43:03 -0700 alijaw02 63 at http://www2.evergreen.edu/a2a08 ARCHIVE - Can computers become alive? http://www2.evergreen.edu/a2a08/can-computers-become-alive <p>Before my research i believe that computers could become alive to an extent.. if not become better &quot;humans&quot;. My opinion is that I think you could preduce a computer &quot;human&quot; who looked, acted, and did what a human would do however i dont think they could necessarily make all the correct decisions by tone of voice or sarcasm or other variables..... <br /><br />After my research i have found<br />&quot;Among living entities, only man has the ability to conceptualize, an ability by which be can grasp the abstractions memory, learning, and concept, either approximately, by intuition, or fully with scientific knowledge and objective epistemology.&quot;<br /><br />my source:  <a href="http://www.airpower.maxwell.af.mil/airchronicles/aureview/1976/may-jun/huggins.html">http://www.airpower.maxwell.af.mil/airchronicles/aureview/1976/may-jun/huggins.html</a><br />more sources: <a href="http://brownzings.blogspot.com/2006/11/are-computers-alive.html">http://brownzings.blogspot.com/2006/11/are-computers-alive.html</a><br />more sources: <a href="http://justdoingsomethinking.blogspot.com/2008/03/are-computers-alive.html">http://justdoingsomethinking.blogspot.com/2008/03/are-computers-alive.html</a>   the following is what they said.. it was interesting to me.. <br />&quot;They say that computers aren&#39;t alive, but they can be killed. They say that computers aren&#39;t alive, but they act in strange unexplainable ways.&quot;</p> http://www2.evergreen.edu/a2a08/can-computers-become-alive#comment Seminar 1: Can machines think? become conscious? have emotion? Tue, 08 Apr 2008 12:03:27 -0700 erbsar24 62 at http://www2.evergreen.edu/a2a08 ARCHIVE - Can computers become conscious http://www2.evergreen.edu/a2a08/can-computers-become-conscious <p>Before doing any reserach I think that computers will never be conscious.  How can you make a computer feel emotion?  You may be able to program a computer to act the way someone acts when they are angry but they are just running a program not actually feeling that emotion.  After reading this article it seems to me that a computer will never become conscious or if they do it will not be for a very long time. The article states &quot;It has been estimated that that the information processing capacity of even the most powerful supercomputer is equal to the nervous system of a snail&quot;.  If it is so far way it will be along way off if it ever becomes possible to equal a humans.  This article also talks about the different way computers &quot;think&quot; and the way humans think. </p><p><a href="http://www2.evergreen.edu/a2a08/can-computers-become-conscious">read more</a></p> http://www2.evergreen.edu/a2a08/can-computers-become-conscious#comment Seminar 1: Can machines think? become conscious? have emotion? Tue, 08 Apr 2008 11:16:23 -0700 schaar05 61 at http://www2.evergreen.edu/a2a08 ARCHIVE - Can Computers Live? http://www2.evergreen.edu/a2a08/can-computers-live <p>So far in my lifetime, I&#39;ve seen the introduction of many &quot;great advancements in science&quot;. Various artificial foods, flavors, sweeteners, colors, drugs, etc and etc. Each time one of these new items slid out of the corporate garbage shoot, they were touted as the latest and best thing modern science had to offer. Now there are people trying desperately to convince everyone that computers can be considered to be alive. Sure when computers are viewed in the very narrow terms beginning used to define the computerized version of life, it&#39;s possible to define the emulations of computers as &quot;life like&quot;, up to a point. I found the writings of the proponents of artificial life just as amusing and ominous as the hawkers of artificial foods. The stuff &quot;science that made&quot; back then, turned out for the most part, to be more than just a little bad. The era of artificial foods introduced a plethora of disease and dysfunction in a vast segment of the population, the likes of which modern medicine is still only just beginning to understand.</p><p><a href="http://www2.evergreen.edu/a2a08/can-computers-live">read more</a></p> http://www2.evergreen.edu/a2a08/can-computers-live#comment Seminar 1: Can machines think? become conscious? have emotion? Mon, 07 Apr 2008 23:19:24 -0700 gradon12 60 at http://www2.evergreen.edu/a2a08 ARCHIVE - Artificial Intelligence http://www2.evergreen.edu/a2a08/artificial-intelligence <p>I don&#39;t think computers will ever be able to think and feel for themselves like a real human being. I think it is possible for a person to create a machine that can appear to do these things, maybe even enough to convince people that it really is. But I don&#39;t think it really can think for itself. Computers are made to do exactly what people tell them to do. So as long as they are being made by people and made to follow certain comands, then how can they really think for themselves? I still don&#39;t know enough on this subject, but for now this is my opinion. </p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><span style="font-size: 12pt"><span>http://psyche.cs.monash.edu.au/v5/psyche-5-30-metzinger.html</span></span></p><p><a href="http://www2.evergreen.edu/a2a08/artificial-intelligence">read more</a></p> http://www2.evergreen.edu/a2a08/artificial-intelligence#comment Seminar 1: Can machines think? become conscious? have emotion? Mon, 07 Apr 2008 22:38:54 -0700 strsha06 59 at http://www2.evergreen.edu/a2a08 ARCHIVE - Man vs. Machine http://www2.evergreen.edu/a2a08/man-vs-machine <p><br />I think a machine/computer is only as valuable as the person using it and/or programming it. It can only do what it is told to do. Humans have the power of choice, have feelings, show emotion, and have the ability to change their minds. Our choices and answers to problems may not always be right, but we use our instincts and feelings to help guide our choices. Computers don&#39;t have that. Computers don&#39;t feel love, hate, pain, or happiness. They lack a soul. I think that a soul is different than a brain. Your brain can tell you not to touch something hot because it has been taught the consequences of doing so. But your soul, or heart, will override your brain if a family member was trapped in a burning house. </p><p><a href="http://www2.evergreen.edu/a2a08/man-vs-machine">read more</a></p> http://www2.evergreen.edu/a2a08/man-vs-machine#comment Seminar 1: Can machines think? become conscious? have emotion? Mon, 07 Apr 2008 22:22:40 -0700 Autumn 58 at http://www2.evergreen.edu/a2a08 ARCHIVE - Are we humans the machines? http://www2.evergreen.edu/a2a08/are-we-humans-the-machines <p style="margin: 0in 0in 10pt" class="MsoNormal"><font face="Calibri" size="3">Before I read any articles on this subject my thoughts where that computers may be capable of <span> </span>“learning” how to simulate being alive. It would be a matter of making hardware to support the kind of software that would be needed to imitate these actions. Although, even if we could make machines that simulate our brains it would still be questionable at best whether or not it was conscious or alive. </font></p><p style="margin: 0in 0in 10pt" class="MsoNormal"><font face="Calibri" size="3">After doing some reading and research on this subject I pretty much feel the same way. It is a matter of teaching some machine how to function like our brains. The problem is that it is not easy to imitate the interactions of our neurons and what effects that has on our bodies overall. Furthermore, even if we did accomplish this task there is no way to tell if it would make machines alive. The most important thing is that we cannot even really understand what makes humans alive in the first place. Some people would argue that human’s random firing of neurons mimics what computers do now so who’s to say that we ourselves are not machines.</font></p><p><a href="http://www2.evergreen.edu/a2a08/are-we-humans-the-machines">read more</a></p> http://www2.evergreen.edu/a2a08/are-we-humans-the-machines#comment Seminar 1: Can machines think? become conscious? have emotion? Mon, 07 Apr 2008 21:52:39 -0700 carsar25 57 at http://www2.evergreen.edu/a2a08 ARCHIVE - Computers can't feel or have emotions by Jessica Solis http://www2.evergreen.edu/a2a08/computers-cant-feel-or-have-emotions-by-jessica-solis <p><font face="courier new,courier" size="2"><strong>Jessica Solis</strong></font></p><p><font face="courier new,courier" size="2"><strong>Algebra, Algorithms, and Modeling</strong></font></p><p><strong><font face="Courier New" size="2">Seminar 1</font></strong><font face="courier new,courier" size="2"><strong> </strong></font></p><p><strong><font face="Courier New" size="2">April 7, 2008</font></strong></p><p><font face="courier new,courier" size="2"><strong>Machines can imitate what human beings are capable of doing. They can do these things but the way they interpret these actions are very different thsn how humans are able to interpret them. Emotions is something a human develop as we grow but computers don&#39;t grow, they are just programmed to do certain things. For example there is no way you can teach someone instincts because thaat is something we are born with. That comouters complete certain tasks doesn&#39;t mean they can feel, or have emotions such as being in love.</strong></font></p><p><a href="http://www2.evergreen.edu/a2a08/computers-cant-feel-or-have-emotions-by-jessica-solis">read more</a></p> http://www2.evergreen.edu/a2a08/computers-cant-feel-or-have-emotions-by-jessica-solis#comment Seminar 1: Can machines think? become conscious? have emotion? Mon, 07 Apr 2008 20:56:48 -0700 soljes08 56 at http://www2.evergreen.edu/a2a08 ARCHIVE - computers can't have emotions http://www2.evergreen.edu/a2a08/computers-cant-have-emotions To the question Can computers think I would have to say yes but not in the general sence of the word. The way computers think is by acessing information that was programed by a programmer. Can  computers become conscious, I would have to say no. Can computers have emotions, to this quest I would say I need to do some research. http://www2.evergreen.edu/a2a08/computers-cant-have-emotions#comment Seminar 1: Can machines think? become conscious? have emotion? Mon, 07 Apr 2008 20:00:46 -0700 gremic25 55 at http://www2.evergreen.edu/a2a08