Sent: Friday, October 25, 2002 11:34 PM

                             Several times during the field trip I was asked questions that I was unable
                             to finish answering either because of lack of time or because I didn't know
                             the answer. I want to try to respond to some of those. I realize many people
                             won't even remember the question, much less care about the answer. However,
                             it is part of my nature to be complete. If you think it is appropriate,
                             please pass along this information.

                             In no particular order:

                             1. How much mint did it take to make the oil in the jar? The student can do
                             the math. What I know is that it takes four acres of mint to make one
                             barrel. A barrel of mint weights 400 pounds. (Information from notes I took
                             during my tour of the mint distillery.)

                             2. A mint distillery is used for both peppermint and spearmint. Steam flows
                             from the boiler, through the steam line into pipes in the bottom of the tub.
                             The steam moves up through the mint hay, taking the mint oil off as a vapor,
                             and moves into the condenser. In the condenser the steam and mint oil vapor
                             are cooled and then they flow into the separating can. The oil rises to the
                             top and flows into the drum.

                             Pictures:
                             http://www.beloit.edu/~chem/Chem230/mintfarm/

                             Diagram and text (part quoted above)
                             http://www.montanamint.addr.com/w2distil.htm

                             3. I've always heard and believed that Washington's asparagus production was
                             second to California. However, in the list I found on the USDA site, it
                             shows Washington ranked as first in asparagus. As I said it was confusing
                             but I think because the USDA site ranks crops by value not quantity,
                             Washington comes out on top since most of Washington's asparagus is sold to
                             the fresh market that brings a higher price than processing. Since most of
                             the California crop is sold into processing, even though they produce more,
                             the value is less.

                             4. The mural office web page: www.toppenishmurals.org

                             5. The railroad museum web page: www.nprymuseum.org

                             6. The web page for Sunnyside Valley Irrigation District is www.svid.org
                             .The pictures of the turbidity levels are on this page.
                             http://www.svid.org/rsbojc_water_quality_program.htm .It relates to the one
                             student's question about pesticides in runoff.

                             7. One of the students asked about enclosing the laterals. The Roza district
                             is piping all their laterals. Information from the web page
                             http://www.roza.org/current_projects.htm

                             8. I believe it was you who asked about the canal surface. I don't know how
                             much of the SVID is lined and how much isn't. There is no impermeable layer
                             under the earthen part of either canal. They lose water through seepage. The
                             information about the Roza is here. http://www.roza.org/geograph.htm . This
                             page lists the number of siphons and tunnels used to move the water under
                             ridges and rivers.

                             9. A question was asked about rainfall. I don't remember it exactly. Yakima
                             averages approximately 8 inches of rain a year. The last measurable rain was
                             .09 inches on October 2. Since January 1 we've had 3.89 inches of rain. In
                             the prior 12 months we've had 6.97. The most one-day rainfall in the prior
                             12 months was .98 inches on November 28. Weather statistics:
                             http://www.accuweather.com/adcbin/climo_local?month=oct&metric=0&record=&year=&cdd=

                             10. The return stack heaters are the most polluting method of frost
                             protection still in use and are often called smudge pots. The return stack
                             heater re-burns the exhaust and cuts down the emissions. They still make a
                             visible haze, but nothing like it used to be. Forty years ago smudge pots
                             were an open tub of oil that was set afire. As the oil burned, it produced a
                             thick black smoke that coated your nose and mouth when you walked through
                             it. Aside from the obvious environmental problem, the layer of smoke
                             prevented the rising sun from warming the ground and the crops. On really
                             heavy protection nights, it would be mid-morning or later before the sun
                             broke through. The heavy smoke was actually counter-productive to the need
                             to warm the crops.

                             11. I didn't get a chance to fully explain how the overhead sprinklers work
                             for frost protection. The critical temperature that will kill fruit buds is
                             somewhere below 32 degrees. The actual temperature varies by variety. By
                             sprinkling water above the tree and letting it freeze, the buds are kept at
                             32 degrees and they are safe. This method of frost protection can only be
                             used on trees that will support the weight of the ice.

                             12. Wind machines work for frost protection because of the principle that
                             warm air rises. During the day soil and trees are heated by the sun. They
                             store the heat that in turn warms the surrounding air. A sudden drop in
                             temperature creates a rapid cooling effect of the air surrounding the trees
                             and soil. At a height of 50 feet above the trees, the temperature of the air
                             can be as much as 10 degrees higher than at ground level. Wind machines
                             force the warmer air from above downward and mix it with the colder air
                             surrounding trees and soil. Wind machines are sometime used in conjunction
                             with ground level heaters if the temperature aloft isn't great enough to
                             project the crop.

                             13. One of the students asked how long frost projection lasts. I was unsure
                             if she meant on a given night or in the season. When protection starts will
                             vary depending upon crop maturity and temperature. Typically in early to
                             mid-March trees have started to bud and once that happens, the protection
                             must be provided whenever the temperature falls below a critical level. The
                             season can last into late April and even occasionally early May. Frost
                             protection is also used in the fall if temperatures get too cold before
                             crops are harvested or trees have gone dormant. Just this morning (October
                             25) several wind machines were running in apple orchards.

                             14. Orchardists use alarms that will awaken them when the temperature falls
                             below the critical level. At that point they begin the all night task of
                             trying to save their crop. Every heater, whether oil or propane, must be lit
                             by hand. Each wind machine must be started individually. Oil heaters must be
                             monitored to make sure they don't run out of oil. They must be filled if
                             they do. Propane is drawn from a central tank, but if it begins to run low,
                             delivery trucks have to be called before the tank runs dry.

                             15. One of the students asked if fuel was spilled when the heaters are
                             filled. Of course there might be some spilling, but it wouldn't be
                             widespread. Aside from the obvious that if you put the oil on the ground
                             you're wasting money, it also wouldn't be good for the trees. Keeping the
                             trees healthy is the growers livelihood. He's not going to damage his land.

                             16. One of the students asked about the wax put on apples. Freshly harvested
                             apples have their own waxy coating that protects them from shriveling and
                             weight loss. Apples are washed at the fruit packing sheds to remove dust and
                             chemical residues. This washing removes about half of the original apple wax
                             that is then replaced by a natural coating. The natural wax added to protect
                             Washington apples is usually carnauba or shellac. The above quoted from:
                             http://www.bestapples.com/facts/waxing.html

                             17. There are numerous commissions in this state specifically chartered to
                             focus on individual crops. I know for sure some are funded by assessments on
                             their members, and I think all are industry funded. While a few are only for
                             marketing, most also have a research aspect. There are government agencies
                             that do research, especially on fruit trees, but some of the other crops
                             must take care of themselves. Both these pages have lists of them.
                             http://www.wnpa.com/foodsafetyforum/ag_c_c/index.html
                             http://foodfarm.wsu.edu/CommodityCom.htm

                             18. At the very start of the write-up, I said the Toppenish National
                             Wildlife Refuge was a natural wetland. It's not. It's a manmade wetland.
                             Details here: http://www.recreation.gov/detail.cfm?ID=(1646)

                             19. A student asked about native American agriculture. I know very little
                             about their culture, but I believe they were hunter/gathers. More
                             information can be found here:
                             http://www.tcfn.org/tctour/museums/Yakama.html

                             20. I wish I could do a better job of explaining how the diversion dam
                             works. It doesn't block the river as does a storage dam. It simply raises
                             the water a few feet. The water has to be pushed into the head gates of the
                             canal since there is no pumping involved, just gravity. In order to get the
                             water to go where it is needed it has to be bunched up. The diversion dam
                             across the river pools the water so it will run down hill into the start of
                             the canal.

                             21. One of the students asked about subsidies for water. Reclamation project
                             water is paid for by the one who benefits from it. The color brochure from
                             the USBR discusses this. I have never heard of any kind of subsidy to
                             farmers for payment of water. The users of the water pay for the water. The
                             farmers are repaying the cost of construction of the irrigation system.

                             22. The rates on the SVID and Roza districts vary from approximately $50 per
                             acre to $90 per acre for "the right to use the water". Every landowner must
                             pay the assessment regardless of whether they use the water. If you don't
                             pay it, it becomes a lien on your land and in three years the district can
                             foreclose and take the property. It's like a tax. It's not like a domestic
                             water bill where you pay for what you use.

                             23. There are crop subsidies that are paid to farmers to take commodities
                             off the market. There isn't nearly as much of those kinds of payments in the
                             Yakima valley as there are in other growing regions since we have so many
                             perennial crops.

                             24. As you left Toppenish, your route passed a large plant with concrete
                             towers. In case someone asked what it was, this was a processing plant for
                             making sugar out of beets. It has been closed since 1979. It started
                             operation sometime in the 1920's.

                             25. I don't know a lot about the Yakama Nation. One of the students asked
                             about farming practices among the native peoples. They were/are a
                             hunter/gatherer/fishing society. For the most part even today, if land on
                             the reservation is developed for farming, it has been sold and is no longer
                             native owned. There is also information on the following pages about size of
                             the reservation that will answer another question.  The Yakama reservation
                             is half again as big as Rhode Island!

                             http://www.critfc.org/text/yakama.html
                             http://www.tcfn.org/tctour/museums/Yakama.html

                             26. Heritage College offers courses in the Sahaptin language. This is one of
                             the native languages of the Yakama people.
                             www.heritage.edu

                             27. I hope some of you noticed Rimrock Lake as you passed it on your way
                             home over Highway 12. I was going to mention it before you left. Rimrock is
                             one of the reservoirs that irrigates the Yakima Valley. It's a man-made lake
                             backed up by the Tieton Dam. It's a major recreation area in addition to
                             providing irrigation water and fish habitat.